Thursday, June 16, 2016

Newbie Tuesday: Facial products?

I was thinking about resuming Newbie Tuesday in the near future to make facial products, like a moisturizer, toner, or cleanser. I thought we could develop a base recipe, then add some cool extras to it, like cosmeceuticals, extracts, botanicals, and more. 

What would you think of this idea? Or would you prefer to work on something else for a newbie series of tutorials? (Check the newbie section below to see what we've already covered.) I'd love to hear your thoughts!

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28 comments:

Cindy said...

I think its a fantastic idea. There are always new newbies. And I'm sure there are plenty of newbies like me who have tried hair and body products but not face products. And, I do want to venture into face products. Ingredients I'm interested in once I get the basics mastered are the new blemish / skin lightener from formulator sample shop (it's REALLY expensive so I need a little experience before purchasing ) and mongongo oil (which is supposed to have natural sunscreen properties )

Deb Manning said...

I think this is a fantastic idea!

Deb

Joyce Bonner said...

How soon can we get started? Wonderful idea!!!!!!
Thanks Susan, for all the time, talent and energy you dedicate in sharing your knowledge with us, just know it is greatly appreciated.

Carolyn Openshaw said...

Great idea. I always feel like a newbie !

Magdalena Keating said...

I Love it Susan!! I am a newly obsessed new newbie!!! I am on your website any moment I can. Any moment I have, I want to make something!!

RobinLindsay said...

Love it!!

Vivien Simanjuntak said...

yes yes i need this ...

Sherra Murphy said...

Yes Please!! I popped over here looking for that very thing!

MTea said...

Yes, yes and please yes!!!!!!!!!!!

Kelly Stevens said...

I agree - yes please!

Unknown said...

Yes, yes, yes. That is just what I was looking for!

Earlene Will said...

Absolutely, please. I actually want to make a facial cleanser that works for me as well as Noxema. Even better, I would like to closely duplicate Noxema, the liquid that comes in a pump bottle. I have used Noxema for facial cleansing most of my life, but unfortunately it has become very hard to find lately. Whenever I travel I look for it and when I find it, buy as many bottles as I can because most stores near where I live no longer carry it.

Because of the sensitive nature of my face, I have never been able to use any commercial hair rinse on my hair without my getting red blotches on my face that take several days to heal. I also have a sensitivity to latex that causes the same kinds of red blotches and have wondered if an ingredient in the commercial hair rinses I have previously used was somehow latex related. This sensitivity was diagnosed after dental surgery. I cannot tolerate latex dental dams or latex surgical gloves anywhere near my face.

Baby Kat said...

I agree that it's a wonderful idea! I bought a bunch of ingredients from lotioncrafters and I have been very happy with the products I made based on some recipes from different sources and others that I created especially for myself, and I love the results. It would be amazing to add your knowledge and create new ones!

Belinda Karst said...

Yes, this is a wonderful idea! I, too, want to venture more into facial products and especially learn about all the fantastic "extras" that take a product from good to "wow! How did I live without this?!?!".

Michelle said...

Sounds great! Would love to see the extra's for dry/mature skin. Thank you Susan.

sarwaaldoori aldoori said...

Dear Susan
as a newbie to your site , I can see that you had previous discussion, seminars or whatever you call are these lectures archived and if so where can I find them
sarwa

Anita said...

I love this idea. I've been wanting to formulate something for my husband to use as an after shave. It's been hard, because he doesn't care for the feel of product on his face.
~ Mrs. Spaceship

Erin Storm said...

I would love if you did this. I've never tried making my own lotion or cleansers yet, but I'd love to try it out.

Susan said...

Great Idea - Always good to go back to the basics, and be reminded of why we do things a certain ways, what works, what doesn't, and customizing to our needs!

Aurelia Ward said...

Sounds great, I'm a new newbie :)

Rose said...

Hi
Great idea love to learn new things as I'm a newbie. Would it also be possible to inform us at the end which other preservitives work with the recipe.
Thanks Susan for all your hard work!!
Rose

electrikat65 said...

I would enjoy that topic.

ingenting said...

Another "yes" over here!
Formulating good facial products is something I really struggle with...especially if something goes wrong, like.. Your moisturizer being too cloggy, you can instantly see it;)
Not to mention getting all the actives etc. to dissolve properly/making sure they don't react with one another or cancel each other out etc.

Most of my creamy face washes end up separating too and I havent figured out why yet...(e.g. is it the combo of oils/emulsifier/surfactant? Is it the citric acid? Etc.)

So, yes, a facial products series would be nice:) maybe with a troubleshooting tutorial at the end if possible.

Susan Barclay-Nichols said...

We are go! Look for a few posts over the next few days

A few quick questions...

Ingenting: Why are you using citric acid in a face wash? Do you have a way to test the pH accurately?

Earlene: Can you send me a link with a good ingredient list for that product that interests you? (I'm not doing duplications outside of my Patreon page, but I don't know about a liquid Noxema and I'm intrigued.)

Sarwa: Look at the right hand side of the blog. There's a section called "links to lists" where you can find the newbie section.

Anita: Take a look at the men's products section of the blog. You may find something there! Although having said this, I think we should take a look at after shaves in a facial products series of posts. Men like facial products, too!

Kay Stary said...

Hi Susan,
I'm not sure if you're aware but korean skin care has been all the rage lately. I'm mainly curious about incorporating fermented skin care into my diys, i.e. galactomyces and various fermented extracts. That's the only new idea I can think of for now, thanks for an amazing blog!

Earlene Will said...

Susan, as requested, a link with pictures of the ingredients list. I tried to find a link on the Noxzema site, but could not. And I learned that one of the bottles of Noxzema I now use is apparently no longer in production. That's the one I think I can more easily find the ingredients to try to duplicate. But I went ahead and put a picture of both bottles with their respective ingredients lists in this post here: http://www.soapmakingforum.com/showthread.php?p=603128#post603128

Perhaps me calling it a liquid is a misnomer in cosmetics parlance, but it is a liquid, so that's what I called it, even though on the bottles is says 'cream'. Anyway, either formula would be fine, but I think DMDM hydantoin (in the classic clean original formula) would be the difficulty. I think I can find everything else, but I am not sure of a source for camphor.

ingenting said...

Hey Susan!

I am psyched you've decided to continue the newbie tuesday facial products series!
My apologies for this late reply though, I had a major flare up in my arms which prevented me from getting to the computer sooner.

To answer your question:
I used citric acid to lower the pH of my face wash. I did this because after trying several face wash recipes with surfactants, my skin always felt really tight after washing. Kind of like when you'd use CP soap on your face. Since my favourite commercial face wash has a lower pH than standard soap, I figured I'd try lowering the pH of my recipes. It does make my skin feel less tight...but as mentioned, the formula ends up separating...

However, upon reflecting, I think my pH strips are crud. And the range is way too big for an accurate reading (it's the yellow paper strip type with readings from 1-14). So during my next splurge on diy cosmetics, I'll look into the better pH strips, with a smaller range, e.g. from Merck. Still a bit too intimated to get an actual meter.

Kim Liebold said...

Yes, please do as I think you are never too old or experienced to learn something new!!!!